LR: The Mother I Fucked
This all started some three weeks ago when I made the retarded to decision to settle with internet girls until I could get some decent girls from another source, in order to avoid fucking whores. This always turns out for the worst, actually most of my girl decisions in Thailand turn out for the worst. For now I’ll blame my sources and also be optimistic and acknowledge the fact that I’ve had some decent girls personality wise in Thailand, but they just weren’t up to my looks standards.
Anyway met this girl online about 2 weeks ago. I’m not sure which facts I knew before and then after I met her, but that’s probably not that important. She was in Bangkok for one last night with her sister. They were staying in a hotel near the river. She was keen to meet up. I guess she doesn’t know many people in Bangkok and she’s a foreigner lover so I would do.
She wanted me to come meet her near the river, which I had no problem doing. I generally never object to meeting girls in strange places on the first meet, as I haven’t been to many places outside the BTS line and always want to explore. Also logistically it usually doesn’t matter too much where you’re coming from as cabs are cheap and girls easily go. Though generally I’ll make sure a day2 / day3 is in my neighborhood. Anyway I went over that way and ended up waiting about 20 something minutes for HBExpensive (her Thai name is “Expensive”) and her sister to show up. At this point I have no idea she’s a mom. I had talked to her on webcam and knew that she was hot/my type. Though she is way outside my age range at 28.
When I meet her and her sister I’m quite impressed. In retrospect, I don’t think HBExpensive is that super (actually it depends on the lighting and her make up), but she meets my standards for being in the mix. We ate at this hip riverside restaurant / bar. It had a live band and a good view, but we got shitty seats as it was the weekend and we showed up late. For some reason HbExpensive ordered an entire bottle of whiskey, even though it was just her and me drinking with the sister out. I was a bit upset that the sister came, but figured I’d see where the situation went.
The mood was kind of dead, I always have language issues (i’m talking in thai), but especially when it’s not one on one. I usually can handle one on one quite alright. Anyway we finish our meal, we have an entire bottle of whiskey and the girls want to leave cause our seats suck. They look to me, this is my city right? Umm.. I’m not even sure if I want to hang out with these girls, I felt like things weren’t going anywhere really, but I was also quite attracted to the girl. I had to decide between bringing them to hang out with my hi-so thai friends or going to a foreigner rooftop party where I knew 4 people. Actually I wanted to bring them some place quiet, but I really didn’t know, specially since it was already close to 12 and places would be closing.
Anyway brought them to the rooftop party and things actually went great there. HbExpensive seemed to have money and bought Tank a drink and me drinks too. In fact one of the things I realized since spending time with HBExpensive is even though I can afford everything for girls just fine, it makes me feel a whole lot better if they can pay for stuff. Also if they’re able to pay for at least part of a vacation or something with me.
Basically once we got to the party, kino escalated and HBExpensive and I were nearly a couple. It was all good. The sister wasn’t impressed by the venue. She can’t speak english really and claims to not like foreigners. Anyway once the end of the night comes randomly HBExpensive is pissed off at me. I even asked her about it later when we were on good terms and she had no idea why. Drunk random feelings. We’re kissing lightly on and off after she recovers from her drunk anger and is back in love. I’m trying to pull her home, but the sister isn’t having it. They’re staying in the hotel together and the sister just wouldn’t listen to me. I tried different angles. Working my girl. Working the sister. Offering to take the sister back drop her off and then HBExpensive and me would go back to my place. The sister could crash on my couch. No, no, no. HBExpensive wasn’t helping in this area, but kept making out with me and was keen. Anyway, ended up going home alone.
For the next two weeks HBExpensive and I talked on skype. She was in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai. She has a friend who owns a guesthouse in Chiang Mai so can stay there for free. I’m under the impression that her life at home in Chiang Rai is a bit restricted, though she never talks about things this way. She really wanted me to come visit Chiang Mai and told me she was going to show me around. So like the riverside restaurant I figured what the heck. I get to go see Chiang Mai and I’ll most likely close this girl.
Before my trip to Chiang Mai HBExpensive is acting weird. Or at least I think she’s acting weird. Once again a bit of the language barrier problem . It seems like she’s saying LJBF, but she’s actually saying that she wants to be my younger sister. She later said this again when I had her naked on a bed and we were making out, so I guess this wasn’t a bad thing. Anyway I almost canceled my trip because of this. I’m still convinced she was semi friending me, or at least trying to downplay expectations that anything was going to happen between us. Which I guess is ok, that’s pretty normal girl behavior. But it makes me question my desire to spend money and travel when there is less certainty.
Once I got to Chiang Mai and we actually met up everything was fine. Things were progressing past the point they did in the club last time we met. Once I’m actually physically present, smiling and not acting like an idiot all is fine.
There are some problems in Chiang Mai though. First she is both sick (sore throat) and on her period. The first night ends early with her going back to her hotel to sleep. I tried to invite her into my room, but she later tells me she didn’t understand my invitation. I told her she should come to my room and we could talk some more, she later told me she didn’t want to talk anymore because of her sore throat, but she would have been willing to do anything else! I then explained that talking, never means talking…
The next day we hang out and don’t really do a whole lot. Get massages, eat lunch, and hang out with her friends at a hair shop. After that I convince her to let me up into her hotel room. Things are basically on from there. We’re making out, I get her shirt off. I’m completely naked. But she says she won’t fuck in that hotel, as she’s embarrassed of the mess (from her period), because she knows the whole staff. She says we could fuck that night when she’s drunk and won’t think / remember making the choice to fuck on her period. Later she says that she will come over after she gets ready, to have sex with me. In 2 hours. I should also mention that during this time there was tons of lovey dovey shit going on and she asked to be my girlfriend, to which I quickly replied yes. Anytime I’m in a sexual situation and a girl asks me that question I instareply yes without thinking.
She had been planning to get her hair done and also wanted to take a shower and get dressed before we would go out that night. Though actually now I’m wondering if she wasn’t trying to push me out of her room so that she could attend her other plans. It’s all very questionable. She tried to get me to leave a couple times, but at the time I was under the impression that she wanted to get ready to go out and we were just playing around and things were going nowhere. But possibly she had planned to ditch me all along.
Anyway before I leave she repeats the two hour thing. Just two hours, she won’t leave me waiting. I wait about 3 hours before making a phone call. No answer. I make 1 other call and also send an sms to her. It’s eventually 5 hours later 12 o’clock and thinking optimistically I figure she may have taken a nap and is just not waking up. So I decide to go visit her room. I figure I have nothing to lose. If I wake her up, I can at least stay with her, or we’ll go out. Otherwise I’m sitting in my room doing nothing all night.
I walk over and it takes about 10-15 minutes to walk. Just as I’m arriving she pulls up on the back of a motorbike of some guy. By the way they talk I can tell they don’t know each other well. She gets off, she’s all drunk and we go and sit in the lobby together. She starts asking me what’s the matter, to which I say you know. I say it twice to her question and then just get up and leave. I walk back to my hotel and send her a message that we’re finished and that I won’t reply to her anymore.
She doesn’t sleep all night and I barely do either (did I mention my hotel has a mosquito problem) she sends texts and smses all night and even shows up at my door (which I don’t answer) at 8am. The staff even calls me telling me I have a visitor. She slips a note under my door at some point too.
My basic conclusion of the whole situation was that she screwed me over. Whatever she was doing with her friends or whoever doesn’t really matter. I don’t really have the expectation of exclusivity, even though she asked to be my girlfriend. But I do have the expectation of at least receiving a bullshit excuse as to why she couldn’t meet me. Her behavior is quite confusing to me, like we are really awesome together, she asks to be my girlfriend, her subcoms give off love. And then she totally flakes without a word. Then she’s back in love calling me all night. But also because of her period, I was willing to fuck but I’m really not that into fucking girls on their period, I decided there is no real use in furthering things along. I also should admit that my feelings are a bit strong for this girl, though not overwhelming which makes me want to protect myself from emotional pain over simply trying to close.
My conclusion now looking back at all this was that she may have feelings for me, but she’s also used to doing whatever she wants in a relationship and not facing penalities for doing stupid stuff like ditching her boyfriend for 5 hours. She also later told me that her Thai ex was there drinking with her and was even trying to fuck her that night. So… she was also hiding things from me.
Part Two of this epic event began with a feeling, a feeling deep down within. A feeling of the need to ejaculate. The day after the night she ditched me she was still sending smses to me. I replied to one. I unfortunately wrote a long winded message about how she fucked me over and how I could never trust her again. This wasn’t the best thing to write, but wasn’t the worst either as it also had the effect of her needing to repair things with me. But it also set the stage for her thinking that things were completely fucked.
We met in her room and didn’t really talk much about what had occurred. I didn’t really care to hear her reasoning and she didn’t really care to give it. Actually she was much more concerned with attempting to make me feel guilty over her not sleeping and her coming to my door in the morning without me answering. She even asked me if I felt guilty, to which I quickly replied no. The close quickly happened from here. And things returned to normalish. Though from this point forward the whole situation was in my hands. She was chasing hard.
We went out that night, partied with her friends. She got all drunk. She was constantly flipping between hitting me angrily and being all lovey dovey. I basically laughed at her when she was angry and then ignored her and that was it 5 minutes later she’d be in love.
So, I learned a lot from this lay, but I’m not sure exactly how to implement it all. First and foremost I need to set up preventive measures so that maybe girls won’t think they can do retarded stuff. RedPoleQ has suggested that I’m too easy on girls at first and they never expect the kind of reactions I give them to their bad behavior. I can also continue on from here, but rather than look at their bad behavior as a disqualifying measure, look at it as a thing that needs punishment. In this case the punishment of my anger and ignoring her worked very well. Maybe it was a bit overboard, but it did what I wanted it to do and expedited the close.
Moving forward from this position, I think I’m ready to maintain and keep more girls. I need to give them more chances. Punish and give another chance. A girl doesn’t know what she is and allowed to do and most girls try to get away with murder in a relationship if they think they have a chance. Repeated non-compliance may warrant a breakup, but first time offenses and such may just need some sort of negative reaction to me. I’m not sure where to draw the line here, but I need to be a bit more forgiving of girls being girls. At some point I’ll have to decide if a girls repeated bad behavior is making me unhappy enough to end things, but especially if a like a girl I need to be more careful about weighing the good and the bad.
After reading Stickman’s article my friend and I headed out to see what we could find. About a 60 baht taxi ride from Ekkami we arrived at a place playing Issan music and full of Thais. The venue was all seated and not too crowded. The place gradually filled up though. We were seated next to a 2 set one of whom my friend immediately opened. After a few words were exchanged the girl my friend was talking to quickly told me that her friend liked me. Game over.
Things got going, alcohol started flowing we eventually joined their table. My friend was doing ok with his girl, but I could tell right from the get go something was off. Maybe he didn’t realize it right away, but he would later tell me how things on his end didn’t quite go. My girl was way into me and as far as any material, none was used. It was a simple have fun, make jokes and dance kind of night. I have to admit that I had more fun in this club playing Issan music than anywhere else in Bangkok so far. Maybe it was the novelty of the event, I’m not sure. I do have a thing for Issan music also though. The whole time there were gay guys and decent looking girls dancing on the stage also with breaks for hiphop and Thai pop music.
My friend’s girl eventually staggered off alone and my friend soon followed. When we were ready to go we simply walked out and there wasn’t even a discussion of what was going on, we just got into a taxi and went. Back at my place as I was undressing this girl I found tons of tatoos. One across her stomach too covering what appeared to be stretch marks. Did this girl have a baby? I never asked. The girl was a pretty horrible fuck and just didn’t seem to really get into it and also was asking me to cum very soon. She also didn’t like to have her clit rubbed. Hmm. All signs pointed to whore. As someone who lived in Pattaya and fucked a lot of prostitutes it became clear pretty quickly what she was. Tattoos, stretch marks, a horrible fuck that she just wanted to finish oh and a few other things. This girl spoke pretty good English, but had no real explanation as to why. She also loved to sleep and walk around with a towel around her… just like the girls of Pattaya. Oh well.
As for my friend he told me his girl may have asked him for money or something to that extent and that she also went to Singapore a bunch of times for some reason. Poor girls don’t travel internationally… Anyway my girl I guess had hope that I was an innocent, clueless and new falang in town. So she had to keep up with her act. She went home the next day and that’s the last time I’ll see her.
All in all though a fun time and interesting experience. We’re going to be checking out more new places in the near future.
Want to hang out this weekend or another? I’m interested in exploring clubs like the one Stickman talked about below. Unfortunately my current group of guys prefer the hiso clubs, so I’m trying to get a group together that is interested in the other side of Bangkok.
If interested send me an email at monolith @ thailandpickup . com if that email doesn’t work leave a comment on one of the articles with your email, i won’t publish it.
There was nothing spectacular about this close. This close is more the story of outsourcing than anything. Most of that outsourcing was completely unintentional, but I’m thankful for it happening. Short version. My friend opened and her friends closed. We were just puppets in their play.
We showed up at Wip in Thong Lor at right around 12am. The club was just beginning to fill up. I with my falang friend met up with 2 Thai friends. They were selecting a table at just that moment. Table selection seems to be a big deal in places like this. It will determine your surroundings for the entire night. It is possible to move around and sarge, but most people are not doing that at all and it’s certainly not the norm for places like this.
A bottle of whisky was ordered and we proceeded to get drunk. The night went on mostly uneventfully, but towards 3 or maybe 4 or maybe even 5am my Thai friend asks me which girl I like from a group that had come to stand by us. They were not at a table, but were just in the middle walkway. I told him my preference. A 7/10. He opened with I believe a “My friend likes you” opener. We were introduced and I took things from there.
The club was so loud, that it was mostly minor communication via memo on my phone and dancing / having fun. I played with the friends a little bit and seemed to have their approval, but there wasn’t a whole lot I could do other than look pretty and have fun.
After the music was shut down and the lights went on there was a lot of discussion among the girls and a lot of waiting around for us guys. I was waiting to see what would happen and just holding my girl and giving her loving eyes etc. From there we walked slowly outside as a group. I kept trying to slow down and turn my girl around and seperate her from her friends. One of her friends told her quite bluntly in English and in front of me that we just go home and fuck. Yes she used those words. Seperation at this point was impossible, I didn’t realize it. There was only one exit and my girl had not settled all the logisitcal problems.
There was a logistical nightmare in place that would have surely caused me to lose this in any other country. One of the girls was from out of town and staying with my girl. Her stuff was in my girls room and she had to leave the next day. There was only one set of keys to my girls place. Also my girl had to work the next day at 8am. Not to mention I’m dealing with normal girl stuff of her not wanting to appear to be ‘easy’ or a slut.
Luckily her friends arranged everything. The girl took her keys and forcefully told her that she didn’t want to stay at her anymore. That she was going to get her stuff and stay with the other friend. At this point we were standing outside and the 2 friends just ditched my girl with my girl protesting the entire situation. After they were gone I pushed my girl into a taxi and took her home. She became a lot more friendly once she realized it was going to happen.
Back at my place I had to do random assurances that she wasn’t a slut, that I didn’t think she was easy and that I really liked her in order to get the close. It was a decent process, but shutting down her LMR in no way compared with the struggles I had in Korea. As I was cumming she said in a sad whimpering voice “please don’t cum inside me.” I told her I was wearing a condom…hmm seems like she didn’t expect that at all lol.
After that I went to her apartment while she got ready for work and escorted her to work. We have tentative plans to hang out again, but I couldn’t make anything solid because of my schedule at the moment. I hope to see her again.
This night out was yet again another eye-opener for what Thailand is really like. Bottles, sluts and helpful friends. When the girl got to my place she was very impressed. I need to some how work pictures of my apartment into my sarges. Also once again the conclusion is, in this country if you open even just a little, you will get closed.
Thai people are always telling me that falang love dark Thai girls… In my limited experience here it seems to be the other way around. Dark (read: poor and from Issan) girls love falang. In the villages and cities where the poor girls come from they hear fairy tale stories of the rich falang sweeping the girl off their feet, marrying them, buying a house and providing for their family. It’s a myth a lot of these girls grow up with. They also grow up with a reality of poverty and broken homes. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard about the horrors of Thai men from the women of this country. Husbands cheating, impregnating, running off, drinking, fighting, dying etc You name it the Thai man has done it to the Thai girl. This is not to say that the women are pure and innocent. They are doing a lot of the same things to their husbands. This is indeed a country of drama, love, heartbreak and everything in between.
Back to the topic at hand; do falang love dark girls? Well coming from the U.S., we have a lot of variety there and honestly I don’t mind dark girls. There are certainly some beautiful ones. But in general I find dark girls to be less beautiful than their white counterparts. Why is this so? It’s not their skin color, but rather their facial structures. White girls in Thailand have different faces, which I along with most of Thailand and most of Asia find more beautiful. I also think the whiter girls tend to age more beautifully. Also other things should be mentioned such as white girls generally dressing better because of having more money. White girls will make a foreigner look better if seen together. White girls are not prostitutes (or at least prostitues servicing falang). White girls don’t tend to be as thick as dark girls can be.
I think the reason why so many white guys are with dark girls is quite simply because they take what is thrown at them. Dark girls chase white guys. White guys chase prostitutes. White guys just in general end up with ugly girls here. Even their chosen dark girl is usually not that beautiful. Then they go lying to themselves saying that they prefer what they were given. Give me a break! Most guys don’t love Thai girls, they love any girl they can get.
Don’t be one of the pathetic guys here in Thailand. Do you realize that most Thais love falang? Do you realize that if you just talk to some of the more beautiful girls, that you can get them almost as easily as the prostitutes? Shhh.
OK, you don’t like the fact that I’m exposing the greatest secret to Thailand yet. Let’s let the old fat men walk around with their village rats. Let’s let the young frat boy on vacation here have his rough looking peasant.
But for you who wants the best, the best is waiting for you you talk to them.
I do think all of this brings up an important point though. The fact that Thai’s in general think the darker women are less beautiful is a great hack. If you’re happy with your dark girl and if can get the most beautiful dark girl while not getting the most beautiful white one… well then you may actually be the winner.